About this interview

In a 2007 interview with Ryan Minic of Ryan’s Rock Show, Jake Turner of Say Anything opens up about the complexities of Max Bemis’ struggles with bipolar disorder, detailing the toll it took on him, the band, and those closest to him. Jake recounts the moments when Max’s condition spiraled out of control, including a harrowing experience where Max became deeply paranoid, believing Jake was involved in a plot against him. He discusses the importance of medication in managing bipolar disorder and how Max had to reach a breaking point before accepting treatment.

Beyond Max’s personal challenges, Jake reflects on Say Anything’s journey from the underground scene to a major label, sharing insights into the pressures of working with J Records and how the band had to navigate industry expectations while maintaining their integrity. He explains the label’s push for commercial success, the experimental nature of their music, and how Say Anything carved out a unique space despite being an outlier on a roster filled with mainstream artists like Alicia Keys and Pearl Jam.

Jake also talks about the impact of Say Anything’s Alternative Press cover story, what it was like to see the band gain widespread recognition, and how their dedicated fanbase remained deeply connected to their music. He shares stories of fans approaching Max for support, seeking guidance in dealing with their own mental health struggles, and how Max embraced the role of being an advocate for others facing similar challenges.

The conversation also touches on Jake’s personal evolution since joining the band, his perspective on staying grounded in the music industry, and the lessons he’s learned from touring with bands like Dashboard Confessional and Saves the Day.