About this interview
In this 2009 interview with Ryan Minic of Ryan's Rock Show, Efrem Schulz and Dan Palmer of Death by Stereo discuss the evolution of punk rock, the music industry’s commercialization, and the DIY ethics that have shaped their career.
They reflect on how punk used to be about rebellion and community, offering a refuge for misfits who didn’t fit in at school. But as the scene evolved, punk became mainstream, turning into a fashion statement rather than a movement. The band expresses frustration over how many new bands start with the goal of fame rather than defiance, in contrast to when punk was about rejecting the status quo.
The conversation explores why American audiences are less open-minded compared to those in Europe and Canada. In the U.S., music trends are disposable, with bands quickly fading once they’re no longer “cool.” Meanwhile, in Europe, fans remain loyal, and legendary punk bands like Sick of It All still headline major festivals with thousands of fans singing along.
Efrem and Dan also discuss their experiences with major labels, including pressures to conform, such as a manager telling them not to wear shorts on stage—a moment that signaled the industry’s attempt to reshape their image. They recall their time on Epitaph Records, appreciating the opportunities but acknowledging how the label’s focus shifted toward more marketable screamo and emo-core bands.
Determined to retain creative control, Death by Stereo funded their next record entirely on their own before partnering with Serjical Strike Records, the label founded by System of a Down frontman Serj Tankian, known for prioritizing artistic integrity over commercial success. The band’s DIY approach allowed them to write at their own pace, avoid industry pressures, and stay true to their roots.