About this interview
In a 2008 interview with Ryan Minic of Ryan’s Rock Show, Lee McKinney and Matt Pantelis of Born of Osiris open up about their journey from the Chicago metal scene to national recognition, reflecting on touring, signing to a label, and the sacrifices needed to build a career in music. The band members discuss how they transitioned from high school projects to becoming a serious touring act, revealing that their big break came through a MySpace message from Sumerian Records, asking if they were serious about pursuing music professionally.
They talk about the hardcore and metalcore-dominated Chicago scene, how pop-punk unexpectedly made a comeback, and what it was like to jump from DIY touring with 20-person crowds to playing for over 1,000 fans a night. Despite the sudden success, they emphasize that their growth felt natural, as each tour gradually got bigger, preparing them for larger audiences.
McKinney and Pantelis also share wild tour stories, including getting arrested for drug paraphernalia and being accused of trafficking after police searched their van. They reflect on how life on the road shifts perspectives, forcing them to see the world and people differently, while also strengthening their belief in hard work, perseverance, and self-determination.
The conversation turns philosophical as they question destiny, explore whether certain people are “chosen” for success, and discuss how they find meaning in the grind of the touring lifestyle. Despite the struggles, both musicians remain confident that if you truly dedicate yourself to something, there’s no way to fail—except by giving up.